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Listed below are other areas of interest along the ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In Reply to: Re: Pennsylvania Turnpike posted by Sideling Hill Tunnel : I hope my E mail works as this is the first time I am using it! I have been a fan of the Pennsylvania Turnpike for many years and have collected photos, films and memorabilia pertaining to the road, built in 1940. The rays Hill Tunnel and Sideling Hill Tunnel were respectively, the shortest(about 3500 feet) and the longest(6782 feet). Both were abandoned in 1968 when a new bypass opened. I have been exploring the old road since 1973 and have had several opportunities to ride over this section with Turnpike officials in my car. I have photos of all 7 original Turnpike tunnels during the original construction, beginning in 1939, to what they look like today. All, but Allegheny were part of the old South penn railroad. You can still see some old remnants of the old railroad today. I'll be on the entire east-west Turnpike in a few weeks and will definitely stop at the old tunnels. See you on THE WORLD'S GREATEST HIGHWAY! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Subject: Comments:
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The Quemahoning Tunnel is part of the William Vanderbuilt railroad days.It was planned for use buy the Pennsylvania Turnpike but bypassed instead.You can find it buy pulling off at mile number 106.5 and looking on the west side of the road
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: I rode the abandoned pa turnpike from breezewood to hustontown. It is 20 miles of riding on the old route before they rerouted the highway.They rerouted it to bypass the rays hill tunnel and the sideling hill tunnel. Riding on this old road reminds me of the twighlight zone. imagine a nuclear war that wipes out everything and your on your bike looking for society. you will see more deer than people. the tunnels are a trip to say the least. rays hill tunnel is 4,500ft. any bikable. then later you get to sideling hill and unless you have 1 million candlepower forget it. we drove around it a nd biked the rest. after we were done we drove it. sideling was amazing how long it was it must be 6,000ft. you cant see the other end until about 3/4 way through.
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I found The"Allegheny Mountain Tunnel"that William Vanderbuilt started to complete.It is located at the eastern portal of the"New Allegheny Tunnels"about 90 feet north of the westbound lane and above the new tunnels.Buy the looks of the Vanderbuilt tunnel you can tell that it was started after orders were given to single lane the tunnels.Ialso found that most of the origional wood reinforcement caved in,unlike the Quemahoning Tunnel
I live in Dillsburg about ten miles south of Camp Hill on Rt.15. I was born
in Ligonier and my grandparents lived in Gettysburg. In my younger years my
family made the trip back and forth on weekends. I counted the tunnels as we
passed thru them. I realized when I was about four that one was missing from
the count. About four years later I was short two more! I visit Ligonier now
and then and wanted to see them again and show my son what they used to look
like. If you've got any more pictures I'd like to see them. Let me know how
you make out in your search for the others!
Joe,
Thank you for responding to my message regarding the Laural Hill Bypass. I
am very interested in the old tunnels of the PA turnpike and also other
"ancient" modes (canals and railroads) of transportation.
In response to you question as to where I live, I live in Eastlake, Ohio,
about 15 miles east of Cleveland. I work for a service company that is
based in Homestead, Pa., and, on occasion, I travel the turnpike to work in
central or eastern PA. I service projection and sound equipment in Movie
theatres.
During the last couple of years, my work has taken me as far east as
Reading, during which I travelled through all of the tunnels on the
turnpike. I have worked in Somerset, and I routinely travel to Indiana
Univ. in Indiana. Last year, I installed some sound equipment at a drive-in
theatre in Latrobe, and had some discussions with the theatre personel who
told me that they go hunting not too far from the turnpike and know the
location of the old Laural Hill tunnel.
As for myself, I have been aware that I am on the tunnel bypass section of
the road, but, when driving by myself, it is difficult to know exactly
where the bypass starts. I have looked for it recently, but, with traffic
and all of the "crazy" drivers on the road, it's easy to go past and not
see the cut off of the old road. I also hope to someday locate the
Quamahoning Tunnel, and the original Allegehny Tunnel.
The Ray's Hill/Sideling Hill cut offs are pretty obvious, both at
Breezwood and at the Eastern end, just east of the plaza.
I would like someday to do some hiking and exploring in the area of the
old road, but.
I have tried to obtain printed material regarding the Turnpike but have
been somewhat limited in what is available. I have copies of booklets
called "Vanderbilt's Folly" by William Shank, and " A Turnpike History" by
Dan Cupper. I have found a book listed on the Cuyahoga County Library
computer system called "Guidebook To The Geology of PA Turnpike" by Arthur
Cleaves. I have not had the opportunity to see this book yet, but, it
sounds very interesting.
In conclusion, let me say that I, and my family are very interested the
history of travel. We have visited many railroad museums, and hiked many
canal towpaths during our vacations. During many of our trips we have
travelled on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, therefore, I would be greatful for
any and all information that you would care to send, or guide me to.
Once again, thank you for getting back to me.
Yours Truly,
Walter Schilling
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Walter Schilling (wschill@ibm.net) (waltersch@juno.com)
Field Engineer, Ultratech, Inc.
Lakeland Civic Band, Tuba Player
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In response to your e-mail, I live in Grove City, PA, and while I
don't get many opportunities to ride on the turnpike (maybe once a year on
the entire "original" road, if I'm lucky), I did take my son, Ben, to see
all the abandoned tunnels a couple of years ago. I can barely remember
trips to Harrisburg in the late 50's and early sixties to visit my
grandparents, and a trip on the turnpike was always a special event since
there were only a handful of limited access "super-highways" in the country
then, and none with tunnels like the turnpike.
I appreciate your posting of the east portal of the old Sideling Hill
tunnel and I am presently using a "reversed" copy of it as my screen
background.
Pa. Turnpike - Tunnels near Breeze Wood were used for emission testing by Mobil Corp. in the early seventies. Fuel was blended (the new no-lead) and transported to Breeze Wood ,where test were carried out in the tunnels,so emmissions could be measured.
I was at the installation at
Paulsboro, NJ that blended developed the fuels. They were blended in small
amounts compared to a refinery blend and shipped in drum lots to
Breezewood. It was part of my responsbility to insure that the drums and
trucked were in compliance with existing DOT regulations. - Brings back a
few memories although a bit fuzzy. If I refcall the trip had to be made
via Baltimore and route 70 rather than the "Pike" because of the HAZMAT
regulations prohibitting flammable liquids in the tunnels. A bit longer and
slower trip than the TP.
Last night our PBS station had a program about the interstate highway
system and its development, which prompted me to check out a item of
interest hence this contact. Hope I am of help. Feel free to respond.
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From: Joseph W.Topinka,Irwin,Pa.412-863-8006
Old Turnpike Pictures
Rt 30 History